Anybody heard anything about major charity changes in Bethel Mill Hill
Notices are being sent out to all congs about it - anybody heard anything?
Jim
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WTBS London undergoing major charity changes
by Jim Dee inanybody heard anything about major charity changes in bethel mill hill.
notices are being sent out to all congs about it - anybody heard anything?.
jim
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JW Signs on With National Coalition for Drug Policy Change!
by Voyager infarris lee huff, one of jehovah's witnesses, signed on with the national coalition for drug policy change.
he listed the words (ministerial service) beside his name.
he signed on under the classification of (clergy).. there were two different documents, with two different dates, one signed in 1994, and the other in 1995. the documents however, look almost identical, with only different dates.. go here and keep scrolling down until your scroll bar gets to be about 1/2 of the way down, look for 3 reverends names to be listed in a row, just above farris lee huff.. go here for 1995 document:.
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Jim Dee
Wonder how long he was a MS for after the Borg found out?
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Elders - Law Enforcers or Loving
by Jim Dee inthey don't care
they enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line.
they have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
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Just to kind of round this one off
Reading peoples comments I have found that - although to some I am a "Little South", nevertheless there seems to have been a nerve touched here
I speak from personal experience. I gave up trying to be kind, moderate, helpful and loving. I was hounded out of the BOE - yet my concience is clear. Politics plays a huge role in the BOE. The hard liners get the bigger jobs.
Reading through the posts I thought all of you were in my cong!! Same the world over. The christlike are **** upon and the hardliners bulldoze there way through. Yet the generation of elders we took over from (I'm 50) were christlike, were caring, were forgiving and loving.
Whats happened?
Now its who is best selling the books, and eforcing - they are the elders now. What does the future hold?
He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword
Jim
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Elders - Law Enforcers or Loving
by Jim Dee inthey don't care
they enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line.
they have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
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Body of Elders commitees are always as follows
1. Lesser sin (Smoking, Confession (please forgive, Snogging and groping etc). 2 Younger Elders and 1 hardline (always the head of the committee)
2. Fornication, adultary - 2 hardline elders and one younger elder
3. Elders children, elders adultry, major cases, apostasy -then you get the 3 hardline elders whose mission is to "keep the congregation clean"
NB These 3 elders will be the ones on circuit/district assemblies - thats how you progress as an elder, be hardline on judicial matters
Jim
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Elders - Law Enforcers or Loving
by Jim Dee inthey don't care
they enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line.
they have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
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They don't care
They enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line. They have total control without guideline or being accountable to anyone.
I've been with this lot for 35 years - 12 of them as an elder.
Rule number one - no-one cares. I'f you've attempted suicide they will publicy reprove you and tell you to go more on the work (big help), if you've been disfellowshipped then "its in Gods hands - but Jehovah won't show compassion because the one who committed suicide turned his/her back on Jehovah. Rule Number two - if you want to get on as an Elder- be seen as a hard line, law enforcer. Disfellowship someone senior (pref another Elder) and you are seen as theocratic, strong and righteous. Rule number three - As an Elder - if you show compassion, reason or care - then the other elders make your life a misery (I know thanks - its what happened to me)
In your congregation - How many depressed, mentally ill, suicidal people do the elders visit to try and offer practical help - answer? The majority cannot be bothered - but they will chase you up if your report is late
Jim
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Avoiding df by threatening suicide!
by avishai ini have heard the rumor more than once that people have avoided df'ing by threatening to kill themselves if they are df'd.
has anyone else heard of this?
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They don't care
They enforce the rules without compassion, dogma without dignity and punish with glee - it keeps the others in line
I've been with this lot for 35 years - 12 of them as an elder.
Rule number one - no-one cares. I'f you've attempted suicide they will publicy reprove you and tell you to go more on the work (big help), if you've been disfellowshipped then "its in Gods hands - but Jehovah won't show compassion because the one who committed suicide turned his/her back on Jehovah.
In your congregation - How many depressed, mentally ill, suicidal people do the elders visit to try and offer practical help - answer NONE
Jim
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Anyone from near Preston, UK?
by stevieb1 inanyone know any ex-jw's from the preston, lancashire area of the uk?
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used to hang around with an Ian Webster, I think he lives up in the preston area. His wife name is Val
He used to be a moter bike nut, met him at the TT a few times, came from Birkenhead
Jim
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NEW JW PEDOPHILE POLL - Requested by Attorney
by Amazing inhi everyone: after discussing this with the attrorney, we decided to conduct a new poll to assure we are able to contact newer members to the board, continue to validate the analysis being prepared, and to seek leads for new cases.
please respond if you have not participated in this poll before.
1. if you know of any jw molesters in any country of the world, please state how many.
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Jim Dee
I know personally of 3 JW Child Molesters in the UK
1 was a MS until recently
1 is now in Jail
1 Lives in spain
My Brother knows of one 1 in Merseyside (Chester area)
My wife knows of two (2) in Newcastle upon Tyne - both are active JWs (One is a MS)
Jim
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A question for those familiar with Bethel Policy and Child Molestation??
by badolputtytat ini cannot go into great detail just yet, because a lot of what i have going with my family hinges on what will happen on the weekend of october 10th.
a short background of this topic before the question: at a very young age.
very young i was sexually abused, by more than one member of our congregation.
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I am unfirmiliar with US proceedings and Law - However this does show the power of the JW database and its accuracy.
Here we have a classic example of a twisted crime, a star chamber, notes being taken, forwarded to the society and noted on the database. Regardless of any justice, rhyme or reason an entry has been made to use against victims TO PROTECT THE SOCIETY.
Strong proof here of the database in action
Jim
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Former Priest, Child Molester Killed in Prison
by little witch in.
john geoghan, the central figure in the catholic church child molestation investigation, was killed in prison today!.
sorry, no link, but is all over the news.
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Jim Dee
No great loss to the gene pool
His living was a waste of good air as far as I am concerned, hope he suffered a great deal
Jim